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==R9E Fandom.com Wikia: Origins==
 
==R9E Fandom.com Wikia: Origins==
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The old Wikia was created by a professional creative team to promote the movie and game (confirmed by the ZOE team in a Youtube comment: www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkkyrykLnxI&lc=UgyyqBETTNC3OH1JHeR4AaABAg ). Most of the content on the old Wikia can be traced back to faction descriptions in the AEG card game manual. However, there's a peculiar amount of content that doesn't seem to come from anywhere outside of the Wikia. Here are my most recent notes trying to squeeze ever last bit of lore out of the remains of that project, trying to parse out what was written by the professionals, conspiracy theory cork board style.
  
 
===Bread Crumbs: Deep Dive on [[Elbeth the Weeping Duchess|Elbeth]]===
 
===Bread Crumbs: Deep Dive on [[Elbeth the Weeping Duchess|Elbeth]]===
There is no mention of Elbeth in official ZOE releases as far as I know, so I went looking for where she came from. If she's a fan creation whole cloth, there's reason to delete her page. However, there is another mention of Elbeth I could find on the internet: a [https://sites.google.com/site/fagewiki/items/magic-items/brooch-of-elbeth-the-weeping-duchess Fantasy AGE homebrew item] credited to Ajay Pollarine. The R9E Wikia page on Elbeth was created by [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Shadesofkin shadesofkin] (likely [https://myspace.com/shadesofkin also Ajay]) and [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Utherseth73 Utherseth73] (likely [http://www.zoefan.net/p/fan.html this ZOE fan]). Also, the Wikia article content was mostly added in June 2013, before any public HoF screenings. Were they jumping in on the online promotional campaign (which started in Jan. 2013) as fans or were they brought in as part of the promotional team officially?
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Here's where my latest search started. There is no mention of Elbeth in official ZOE releases as far as I know, so I went looking for where she came from. If she's a fan creation whole cloth, there's reason to delete her article. However, there is another mention of Elbeth on the internet: a [https://sites.google.com/site/fagewiki/items/magic-items/brooch-of-elbeth-the-weeping-duchess Fantasy AGE homebrew item] credited to Ajay Pollarine. The R9E Wikia article on Elbeth was created by [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Shadesofkin shadesofkin] (likely [https://myspace.com/shadesofkin also Ajay]) and [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Utherseth73 Utherseth73] (likely [http://www.zoefan.net/p/fan.html this ZOE fan]). Also, the Wikia article content was mostly added in June 2013, before any public HoF screenings. Were they jumping in on the online promotional campaign (which started in Jan. 2013) as fans or were they brought in as part of the promotional team officially?
  
 
This got me going...
 
This got me going...
  
 
===More Digging===
 
===More Digging===
Doing some digging I should have done a long time ago, it looks like most of the original Wikia was created in June 2013 by a small number of accounts:
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Doing some digging, it looks like a now-lost version of the Wikia existed. However, it "crashed," losing all its information. A replacement was created in early June 2013 by a small number of accounts:
 
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<li>https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Roborangutang (created the wikia)
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<li>https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Utherseth73 (164 edits, mostly adding images and dumping faction descriptions from the AEG rulebook, which had not been publically released at the time)
<li>https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Utherseth73
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<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Roborangutang Roborangutang](48 edits, mostly wiki maintenance and admin duties)
<li>https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Otteriffic
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<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Otteriffic Otteriffic](46 edits, mostly adding images and a fictional tournament story about Ord players)
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<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Shadesofkin Shadesofkin](3 edits, all to the Elbeth article)
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<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:MKgorgone Kgorgone](11 edits, dumping a large amount of Shad-Hujem lore)
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<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Shad-O-Facts Shad-O-Facts](3 edits, all to fictional tournament info)
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<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Ordislife Ordislife](1 edit, adding a category to the Ord article)
 
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activity didn't pick up again until Oct. 2013, after HoF was already released (I've been using ZOE's [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zombieorpheus/the-gamers-hands-of-fate/posts old Kickstarter campaign] as a reference). This is reason to believe that content posted to the Wikia in June 2013 might come from a promotional team, rather than fans of the movie.  
 
activity didn't pick up again until Oct. 2013, after HoF was already released (I've been using ZOE's [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zombieorpheus/the-gamers-hands-of-fate/posts old Kickstarter campaign] as a reference). This is reason to believe that content posted to the Wikia in June 2013 might come from a promotional team, rather than fans of the movie.  
  
 
Then I found [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:2087 this bombshell conversation]. Roborangutang was in familiar contact with AEG, and Utherseth73 had access to an early copy of the R9E card game manual!
 
Then I found [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:2087 this bombshell conversation]. Roborangutang was in familiar contact with AEG, and Utherseth73 had access to an early copy of the R9E card game manual!

Revision as of 20:16, 26 June 2020

Hello all! I first experienced The Gamers on Youtube at 240p in the mid-2000s. Now, I'm super into Hands of Fate and Countermay.

I cleaned up the R9E Wikia/Fandom.com wiki (the one created to add a mythic history to Romance of the Nine Empires in 2013) with lots of sources and stuff in 2019 and was pointed here from the ZOE Discord (I'm random-allium-table there) by User:Moritz.schubert.pb. My wiki passion is in citations and internal hyperlinks. Hope to talk to you soon!

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R9E Fandom.com Wikia: Origins

The old Wikia was created by a professional creative team to promote the movie and game (confirmed by the ZOE team in a Youtube comment: www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkkyrykLnxI&lc=UgyyqBETTNC3OH1JHeR4AaABAg ). Most of the content on the old Wikia can be traced back to faction descriptions in the AEG card game manual. However, there's a peculiar amount of content that doesn't seem to come from anywhere outside of the Wikia. Here are my most recent notes trying to squeeze ever last bit of lore out of the remains of that project, trying to parse out what was written by the professionals, conspiracy theory cork board style.

Bread Crumbs: Deep Dive on Elbeth

Here's where my latest search started. There is no mention of Elbeth in official ZOE releases as far as I know, so I went looking for where she came from. If she's a fan creation whole cloth, there's reason to delete her article. However, there is another mention of Elbeth on the internet: a Fantasy AGE homebrew item credited to Ajay Pollarine. The R9E Wikia article on Elbeth was created by shadesofkin (likely also Ajay) and Utherseth73 (likely this ZOE fan). Also, the Wikia article content was mostly added in June 2013, before any public HoF screenings. Were they jumping in on the online promotional campaign (which started in Jan. 2013) as fans or were they brought in as part of the promotional team officially?

This got me going...

More Digging

Doing some digging, it looks like a now-lost version of the Wikia existed. However, it "crashed," losing all its information. A replacement was created in early June 2013 by a small number of accounts:

  • https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Utherseth73 (164 edits, mostly adding images and dumping faction descriptions from the AEG rulebook, which had not been publically released at the time)
  • Roborangutang(48 edits, mostly wiki maintenance and admin duties)
  • Otteriffic(46 edits, mostly adding images and a fictional tournament story about Ord players)
  • Shadesofkin(3 edits, all to the Elbeth article)
  • Kgorgone(11 edits, dumping a large amount of Shad-Hujem lore)
  • Shad-O-Facts(3 edits, all to fictional tournament info)
  • Ordislife(1 edit, adding a category to the Ord article)

activity didn't pick up again until Oct. 2013, after HoF was already released (I've been using ZOE's old Kickstarter campaign as a reference). This is reason to believe that content posted to the Wikia in June 2013 might come from a promotional team, rather than fans of the movie.

Then I found this bombshell conversation. Roborangutang was in familiar contact with AEG, and Utherseth73 had access to an early copy of the R9E card game manual!