User:Subvisser5 - Revision history

Subvisser5 at 15:07, 4 November 2020

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	* [[Salia the Slaughterer]] - https://www.instagram.com/p/ob2WqpQD-7/		* [[Salia the Slaughterer]] - https://www.instagram.com/p/ob2WqpQD-7/
	* The [[Stonebrier]] orcish clan inhabit the Thornwild Hills. The hills are cold and muddy. they're rainy, hard to farm, rocky fields, rough for horses & wagons.		* The [[Stonebrier]] orcish clan inhabit the Thornwild Hills. The hills are cold and muddy. they're rainy, hard to farm, rocky fields, rough for horses & wagons.
			* [[Void Jumpers]]

	==R9E Fandom.com Wikia: Origins==		==R9E Fandom.com Wikia: Origins==

Subvisser5: /* Articles to Create */

2020-08-22T05:08:06Z

Articles to Create

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	==Articles to Create==		==Articles to Create==
	~~<ul>~~		* [[Ulix]] of Ixhasa, the Eternal Emperor
	~~<li>[[The Emissary]] of the Dread Army~~		* [[Salia the Slaughterer]] - https://www.instagram.com/p/ob2WqpQD-7/
	~~<li>~~[[Ulix]] of Ixhasa, the Eternal Emperor		* The [[Stonebrier]] orcish clan inhabit the Thornwild Hills. The hills are cold and muddy. they're rainy, hard to farm, rocky fields, rough for horses & wagons.
	~~<li>~~[[Salia the Slaughterer]] - https://www.instagram.com/p/ob2WqpQD-7/
	~~<li>~~[[~~Skafla~~]] ~~(appears in~~ the ~~movie~~ and ~~the comic)~~
	~~</ul>~~

	==R9E Fandom.com Wikia: Origins==		==R9E Fandom.com Wikia: Origins==

Subvisser5: /* Articles to Create */ removing completed items

2020-07-28T20:42:26Z

Articles to Create: removing completed items

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	~~<li>[[Alaric Buxtehude]] (appears in the card game and DVD bonus short film)~~
	~~<li>[[Myriad Buxtehude]]~~
	<li>[[The Emissary]] of the Dread Army		<li>[[The Emissary]] of the Dread Army
	<li>[[Ulix]] of Ixhasa, the Eternal Emperor		<li>[[Ulix]] of Ixhasa, the Eternal Emperor

Subvisser5: /* Who was Rhea? */

2020-07-19T17:40:07Z

Who was Rhea?

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	===Who was Rhea?===		===Who was Rhea?===
	Suddenly, in mid-Oct. 2013, a newcomer leapt onto the scene. [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Rhea_Flint Rhea Flint] is a fully [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe kayfabe] account, from the profile to [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MKgorgone/The_Gift_and_Truth#comm-2253 a couple] [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/The_Apple_of_Life%3F#comm-2252 comments] they left. This account is in-character as if the game's history is real, and while most of their contributions were formatting edits for readability, they added seemingly original content to various pages. Less than two weeks later, their R9E Wikia activity stopped. They included a link on their profile to an [https://salvation-of-the-nine-empires.obsidianportal.com/ R9E RPG campaign] at Obsidian Portal that includes some Countermay lore not hosted anywhere else, and it seems that's where they took their creative activity.		Suddenly, in mid-Oct. 2013, a newcomer leapt onto the scene. [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Rhea_Flint Rhea Flint] is a fully [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe kayfabe] account, from the profile to [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MKgorgone/The_Gift_and_Truth#comm-2253 a couple] [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/The_Apple_of_Life%3F#comm-2252 comments] they left. This account is in-character as if the game's history is real, and while most of their contributions were formatting edits for readability, they added seemingly original content to various pages. Less than two weeks later, their R9E Wikia activity stopped. They included a link on their profile to an [https://salvation-of-the-nine-empires.obsidianportal.com/ R9E RPG campaign] at Obsidian Portal that includes some Countermay lore not hosted anywhere else, and it seems that's where they took their creative activity.

			UPDATE (7/2020): I reached out to their Obsidian Portal account in June 2020, and they've confirmed it was fan fiction.

Subvisser5: /* More Digging */ added update

2020-07-19T17:38:21Z

More Digging: added update

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	<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Roborangutang Roborangutang](48 edits, mostly wiki maintenance and admin duties)		<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Roborangutang Roborangutang](48 edits, mostly wiki maintenance and admin duties)
	<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Otteriffic Otteriffic](46 edits, mostly adding images and a fictional story about Ord players)		<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Otteriffic Otteriffic](46 edits, mostly adding images and a fictional story about Ord players)
	<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:MKgorgone MKgorgone](11 edits, dumping a large amount of Shad-Hujem lore)		<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:MKgorgone MKgorgone](11 edits, dumping a large amount of Shad-Hujem lore. UPDATE: I reached out to [https://twitter.com/mkgorgone a Twitter account by the same name] in June 2020, and they confirmed it was fan fiction.)
	<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Shadesofkin Shadesofkin](3 edits, all to the Elbeth article)		<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Shadesofkin Shadesofkin](3 edits, all to the Elbeth article)
	<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Shad-O-Facts Shad-O-Facts](3 edits, all to fictional tournament info)		<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Shad-O-Facts Shad-O-Facts](3 edits, all to fictional tournament info)

Subvisser5: /* Who was Rhea? */

2020-07-02T21:51:35Z

Who was Rhea?

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	===Who was Rhea?===		===Who was Rhea?===
	Suddenly, in mid-Oct. 2013, a newcomer leapt onto the scene. [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Rhea_Flint Rhea Flint] is a fully [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe kayfabe] account, from the profile to [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MKgorgone/The_Gift_and_Truth#comm-2253 a couple] [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/The_Apple_of_Life%3F#comm-2252 comments] they left. This account is in-character as if the game's history is real, and while most of their contributions were formatting edits for readability, they added seemingly original content to various pages. Less than two weeks later, their R9E Wikia activity ~~stops~~. They included a link on their profile to an [https://salvation-of-the-nine-empires.obsidianportal.com/ R9E RPG campaign] at Obsidian Portal that includes some Countermay lore not hosted anywhere else, and it seems that's where they took their creative activity.		Suddenly, in mid-Oct. 2013, a newcomer leapt onto the scene. [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Rhea_Flint Rhea Flint] is a fully [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe kayfabe] account, from the profile to [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MKgorgone/The_Gift_and_Truth#comm-2253 a couple] [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/The_Apple_of_Life%3F#comm-2252 comments] they left. This account is in-character as if the game's history is real, and while most of their contributions were formatting edits for readability, they added seemingly original content to various pages. Less than two weeks later, their R9E Wikia activity stopped. They included a link on their profile to an [https://salvation-of-the-nine-empires.obsidianportal.com/ R9E RPG campaign] at Obsidian Portal that includes some Countermay lore not hosted anywhere else, and it seems that's where they took their creative activity.

Subvisser5: /* Articles to Create */

2020-07-02T21:34:44Z

Articles to Create

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	==Articles to Create==		==Articles to Create==
	<ul>		<ul>
	<li>[[Alaric Buxtehude]]		<li>[[Alaric Buxtehude]] (appears in the card game and DVD bonus short film)
	~~<li>[[Simm Buxtehude]]~~
	<li>[[Myriad Buxtehude]]		<li>[[Myriad Buxtehude]]
	<li>[[The Emissary]]		<li>[[The Emissary]] of the Dread Army
	<li>[[Ulix]]		<li>[[Ulix]] of Ixhasa, the Eternal Emperor
	<li>[[Salia the Slaughterer]] - https://www.instagram.com/p/ob2WqpQD-7/		<li>[[Salia the Slaughterer]] - https://www.instagram.com/p/ob2WqpQD-7/
			<li>[[Skafla]] (appears in the movie and the comic)
	</ul>		</ul>

Subvisser5: /* Articles to Create */

2020-07-02T20:35:48Z

Articles to Create

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	<li>[[Simm Buxtehude]]		<li>[[Simm Buxtehude]]
	<li>[[Myriad Buxtehude]]		<li>[[Myriad Buxtehude]]
	<li>[[Emissary]]~~, The~~		<li>[[The Emissary]]
	<li>[[Ulix]]		<li>[[Ulix]]
	<li>[[Salia the Slaughterer]] - https://www.instagram.com/p/ob2WqpQD-7/		<li>[[Salia the Slaughterer]] - https://www.instagram.com/p/ob2WqpQD-7/

Subvisser5 at 03:36, 27 June 2020

2020-06-27T03:36:51Z

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	===Bread Crumbs: The Search for [[Elbeth the Weeping Duchess\|Elbeth]]===		===Bread Crumbs: The Search for [[Elbeth the Weeping Duchess\|Elbeth]]===
	Here's where my latest search started. There is no mention of Elbeth in official ZOE releases as far as I know, so I went looking for where she came from. If she's a fan creation whole cloth, there's reason to delete her article. However, there is another mention of Elbeth on the internet: a [https://sites.google.com/site/fagewiki/items/magic-items/brooch-of-elbeth-the-weeping-duchess Fantasy AGE homebrew item] credited to Ajay Pollarine. The R9E Wikia article on Elbeth was created by [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Shadesofkin shadesofkin] (likely [https://myspace.com/shadesofkin also Ajay]) and [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Utherseth73 Utherseth73] (likely [http://www.zoefan.net/p/fan.html this ZOE fan]). Also, the Wikia article content was mostly added in June 2013, before any public HoF screenings. Were they jumping in on the online promotional campaign (which started in Jan. 2013) as fans or were they brought in as part of the promotional team officially?		Here's where my latest search started. There is no mention of Elbeth in official ZOE releases as far as I know, so I went looking for where she came from. If she's a fan creation whole cloth, there's reason to delete her article. However, there is another mention of Elbeth on the internet: a [https://sites.google.com/site/fagewiki/items/magic-items/brooch-of-elbeth-the-weeping-duchess Fantasy AGE homebrew item] credited to Ajay Pollarine. The R9E Wikia article on Elbeth was created by [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Shadesofkin shadesofkin] (likely [https://myspace.com/shadesofkin also Ajay]) and [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Utherseth73 Utherseth73] (likely [http://www.zoefan.net/p/fan.html this ZOE fan]). Also, the Wikia article content was mostly added in June 2013, before any public HoF screenings. Were they jumping in on the online promotional campaign (which started in Jan. 2013 and picked up speed in May) as fans or were they brought in as part of the promotional team officially?

	This got me going...		This got me going...
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	In the storyline AEG created to give the real R9E card game a sense of history, they pretended that a database of R9E info had "crashed," the backups "fried," losing all R9E information---their blog post sharing this story [https://web.archive.org/web/20160818153819/https://www.alderac.com/r9e/2013/05/27/major-crash-update/ is archived and available]. A "replacement" Wikia was created in early June 2013 by a small number of accounts:		In the storyline AEG created to give the real R9E card game a sense of history, they pretended that a database of R9E info had "crashed," the backups "fried," losing all R9E information---their blog post sharing this story [https://web.archive.org/web/20160818153819/https://www.alderac.com/r9e/2013/05/27/major-crash-update/ is archived and available]. A "replacement" Wikia was created in early June 2013 by a small number of accounts:
	<ul>		<ul>
	<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Utherseth73 Utherseth73] (164 edits, mostly adding images and dumping faction descriptions from the AEG rulebook, which had ~~not~~ been released ~~yet~~)		<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Utherseth73 Utherseth73] (164 edits, mostly adding images and dumping faction descriptions from the AEG rulebook, which had been released in May)
	<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Roborangutang Roborangutang](48 edits, mostly wiki maintenance and admin duties)		<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Roborangutang Roborangutang](48 edits, mostly wiki maintenance and admin duties)
	<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Otteriffic Otteriffic](46 edits, mostly adding images and a fictional story about Ord players)		<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Otteriffic Otteriffic](46 edits, mostly adding images and a fictional story about Ord players)
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	<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Ordislife Ordislife](1 edit, adding a category to the Ord article)		<li>[https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Ordislife Ordislife](1 edit, adding a category to the Ord article)
	</ul>		</ul>
	Activity didn't pick up again until Oct. 2013, after HoF was already released. This is reason to believe that content posted to the Wikia in June 2013 might have come from a promotional team, rather than AEG or ZOE fans. Roborangutang [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Roborangutang/Welcome! posted in kayfabe] that the old Wikia was "the rebirth of the [R9E] wiki," but there was no way to know whether they were a pro or just an altruistic ~~ZOE~~ fan...		Activity didn't pick up again until Oct. 2013, after HoF was already released. This is reason to believe that content posted to the Wikia in June 2013 might have come from a promotional team, rather than AEG or ZOE fans. Roborangutang [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Roborangutang/Welcome! posted in kayfabe] that the old Wikia was "the rebirth of the [R9E] wiki," but there was no way to know whether they were a pro or just an altruistic fan...

	Then I found [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:2087 this bombshell conversation]. Roborangutang was in familiar contact with AEG~~, and Utherseth73 had access to an early copy of the R9E card game manual~~! If no one else, we know ~~those two~~ were coordinating with pros if they weren't ~~pros~~ themselves.		Then I found [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:2087 this bombshell conversation]. Roborangutang was in familiar contact with AEG! If no one else, we know they were coordinating with pros if they weren't a pro themselves.

	===Who was Rhea?===		===Who was Rhea?===
	Suddenly, in mid-Oct. 2013, a newcomer leapt onto the scene. [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Rhea_Flint Rhea Flint] is a fully [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe kayfabe] account, from the profile to [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MKgorgone/The_Gift_and_Truth#comm-2253 a couple] [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/The_Apple_of_Life%3F#comm-2252 comments] they left ~~on pages~~. This account is in-character as if the game's history is real, and while most of their ~~edits~~ were formatting edits for readability, they added seemingly original content to various pages. Less than two weeks later, their R9E Wikia activity stops. They included a link on their profile to an [https://salvation-of-the-nine-empires.obsidianportal.com/ R9E RPG campaign] at Obsidian Portal that includes some Countermay lore not hosted anywhere else, and it seems that's where they took their creative activity.		Suddenly, in mid-Oct. 2013, a newcomer leapt onto the scene. [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User:Rhea_Flint Rhea Flint] is a fully [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe kayfabe] account, from the profile to [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MKgorgone/The_Gift_and_Truth#comm-2253 a couple] [https://r9e.fandom.com/wiki/The_Apple_of_Life%3F#comm-2252 comments] they left. This account is in-character as if the game's history is real, and while most of their contributions were formatting edits for readability, they added seemingly original content to various pages. Less than two weeks later, their R9E Wikia activity stops. They included a link on their profile to an [https://salvation-of-the-nine-empires.obsidianportal.com/ R9E RPG campaign] at Obsidian Portal that includes some Countermay lore not hosted anywhere else, and it seems that's where they took their creative activity.

Subvisser5: /* R9E Fandom.com Wikia: Origins */ pardon the endless edits on my own page

2020-06-27T03:02:33Z

R9E Fandom.com Wikia: Origins: pardon the endless edits on my own page

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	==R9E Fandom.com Wikia: Origins==		==R9E Fandom.com Wikia: Origins==
	The old Wikia was created by a professional creative team to promote the movie and game (confirmed by the ZOE team in [www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkkyrykLnxI&lc=UgyyqBETTNC3OH1JHeR4AaABAg a Youtube comment]). Most of the content on the old Wikia can be traced back to faction descriptions in the AEG card game manual. However, there's a peculiar amount of content that doesn't seem to come from anywhere outside of the Wikia. Here are my most recent notes trying to squeeze every last bit of lore out of the remains of that project, trying to parse out what was written by the professionals and what was fanon.		The old Wikia was created by a professional creative team to promote the movie and game (confirmed by the ZOE team in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkkyrykLnxI&lc=UgyyqBETTNC3OH1JHeR4AaABAg a Youtube comment]). Most of the content on the old Wikia can be traced back to faction descriptions in the AEG card game manual. However, there's a peculiar amount of content that doesn't seem to come from anywhere outside of the Wikia. Here are my most recent notes trying to squeeze every last bit of lore out of the remains of that project, trying to parse out what was written by the professionals and what was fanon.

	===Bread Crumbs: The Search for [[Elbeth the Weeping Duchess\|Elbeth]]===		===Bread Crumbs: The Search for [[Elbeth the Weeping Duchess\|Elbeth]]===